The Great Open Source Debate with Elastic, Gluu and GitHub 🎤 Oct 26

Upcoming changes to identity management integrations

We have 11000 users in our LDAP. Filtering special groups for channels and login. . .

Bad promotion to trim/move very important features to an enterprise version! Now you can shake hands to mattermost.

Peace im out.

BR

rm -rf /opt/rocketChat

Thanks for your post @7tsstlix and apologies for the delayed reply.

We’ve been busy working on clarification update and digesting community feedback since the Community Open Call.

The Pro Edition will continue to have all features marked as CE in this updated clarified document. Can you please check to see if they satisfy your needs.

In any case, Pro Edition users will not observe any changes before their renewal.

Thanks for the post @_ff

LDAP filtering will remain implemented in CE.

There is no need to disengage.

We’ve been busy working on clarification update and digesting community feedback since the Community Open Call.

Thank you for your continued support of RC.

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Gatekeeping the user sign-in functionality (even advanced features) seems very short-sighted in that it slows the adoption decision of the platform as a whole to new deployments and potential customers. I am sure that your company valuation is directly linked to the number of deployments and number of users reached, even if they are non-paying users.

Also charging for every user able to login into the system is very hard to justify in many deployment cases that would want to pay for Rocket.Chat, since not all users that can access the chat are valued equally when assessing a ROI calculation.

Why don’t you guys consider charging for the omnichannel agent support thing? It seems very Corporate EE oriented and probably more interesting to charge for feature unlock and also per agent seat as it has a more clear ROI for companies using Rocket Chat.

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Thank you very much @paul for these very well thought-out, constructive and practical suggestions.

I sincerely hope you can join us for the upcoming roadmap reveal and our next Community Open Call.

It seems that also SAML mappings and Clockdrift feature is removed from CE. It means that RC becomes useless for us. How long is version 3.x supported?
Fortunately, Zulip has a migration feature: Import from Rocket.Chat (Zulip Help Center) :+1:

For me was the only reason, why i selected Rocket Chat in the first place, that the security/login features are not an extra or upsale.
This is a big deterioration and i’ll start looking for a diffrent solution.
The push notification change was understandable and reasonable but this is not.
Also the Link for identity-management-ee-vs-ce is not working, this should be the correct one Link

Ok, than switching to MS Teams. I have argued to our CEO that open source is the right decision and that RC is a nice and open Tool. But we’ve got alle Exchange accounts and Teams is is part of it.
So no questions we have to switch.

Whats a shame about it is, what others here are mentioning, you can’t know whats the next feature is which is scraped from the CE version.

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After reading about all of the upcoming plans and cut down of LDAP sanchronization features is really sad to hear.

We are currently using Rocket.Chat with over 100 users synced to our LDAP server, the question for us would be, how long will you support the CE with security updates for versions lower than 4.0.x like 3.18.1?

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We also convinced and support a few organizations that rely on the feature syncing LDAP groups to RocketChat channels. But they have not calculated a budget for the enterprise version.

If RocketChat would not be willing to backport security fixes to RC 3.18.1 maybe we could organize that as a community effort.

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We are not going to update either unless background sync is included. We are corruently exploring Zulip if it will be valid replacement. There is migration feature, they got push notifications free as well so no need to build custom apps.

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Will there be LTS for 3.18?

@dsh Please see Getting Support for LTS policy. Please join our upcoming Community Open Call to get your questions answered.

Hi @rasos , great to “meet” you again. Please join our upcoming Community Open Call if you can.

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Thanks for posting @schulz. Please see Getting Support for the LTS policy.

Thanks for posting, @rcadmin. The Clockdrift feature should be in CE.

Please see Getting Support for LTS policy, and please join our upcoming Community Open Call if you can.